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fredericka whitfield, it's 11:00 on the east coast, 8:00 on the west, we've got a busy hour ahead. let's get straight to the news. the u.s. army staff sergeant accused of gunning down 16 afghan civilians is due back on u.s. soil some time this afternoon. the lawyer representing the still unidentified g.i. says he's being flown from kuwait to kansas. john henry brown is a well regarded attorney based in seattle. he says his client had been wounded twice in iraq and told he not be sent to afghanistan. >> we do know he had a concussive head injury and he was injured in his leg severely and i am somewhat confused as to why they would send him back to afghanistan. he was told he was not going to go and then overnight he was told he was going to go. and as a good soldier, he did what he was told. >> brown also says everybody at his client's remote afghan
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outpost had been affected by the wounding of a soldier there the day before the rampage. afghanistan's president says his people have gotten "no cooperation from america" in their investigation of last sunday's killings. hamid karzai had a face-to-face meeting just yesterday with defense secretary leon panetta. but meeting today with the families of the dead, civilians, karzai questioned whether there had been more than one killer. one villager said the u.s. is offering the families money, but the families, instead, want justice. back in this country, gas prices are still on the move up another penny on average to $3.83 a gallon for self-serve regular as calculated by aaa. gas has gone up 17 cents so far this year and while president obama is taking the heat, he says no politician can drive prices down in the short-term. >> every time prices start to go
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up, especially in an election year. politicians dust off their three-point plans for $2 gas. they head down to the gas station, they make sure a few cameras are following them. and then they start acting like we've got a magic wand and we will give you cheap gas forever. >> so as you may know, gop presidential contender newt gingrich has promised if he is elected, gas will cost $2.50 a gallon. rick santorum has had a big week politically and now financially. his campaign says santorum's twin wins in tuesday's southern primaries have brought him $1 million in new donations. right now, he is in missouri ahead of that state's caucuses and then it's off to illinois, which is scheduled for a primary come tuesday. all right. we're just getting word that george clooney has been arrested in washington. this is new video right now
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we're sharing with you, the actor and activist being led away from the sudanese embassy where he and others were protesting sudanese atrocities. yesterday clooney testified before congress on what he calls the random killing, raping, and starving of sudanese civilians by their own government. and here he is just moments before his arrest in washington again. >> we're here really to ask two very simple questions. the first question is something immediate and immediately we need humanitarian aid to be allowed into the sudan before it becomes the worst humanitarian crisis in the world, immediately. the second thing we are here to ask, it's a very simple thing is that the government to stop randomly killing its own innocent men, women, and children. stop raping them, and stop starving them. that's all we ask. >> so again, not long after those comments, george clooney arrested outside the sudanese embassy in the nation's capital.
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all right. a guy playing golf got the jolt of his life when he suddenly found himself at the edge of a huge tornado in michigan it was all caught on video. >> it came out of nowhere. this twister ripped through the city of dexter, ten miles north of ann arbor, it was one of several reported in the state yesterday. and as you see in this picture, more than 100 homes either destroyed or damaged. fortunately no reports of deaths or injuries. all right. back overseas now. anti-government protesters filled the streets of several syrian cities today demanding immediate military action against president assad. as the revolt enters its second year, deadly attacks against civilians continue.
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the united nations says more than 8,000 people have been killed in the conflict. dissidents reported clashes between army defectors. meanwhile, turkey's prime minister says he is considering setting up a security zone along turkey's border with syria. all right. it is a day -- it is the day, rather, that ipad lovers around the world have been waiting for, the newest version of apple's tablet computer going on sale today. those getting their hands on it first were apple die hards in asia. fanatics in new york camped out on the sidewalk before the stores opened at 8:00 this morning. the new ipad has a higher resolution screen and its networking capabilities are much faster than its predecessor, the starting price at $499. all right. the american soldier accused of gunning down 16 afghan civilians
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is now on his way back to the u.s. right now. so what happens when he gets here? and could his trial be held back in afghanistan? up next, i'll ask a former officer and defense attorney. ♪ ♪ ♪ wow... ♪ [ female announcer ] sometimes, all you need is the smooth, creamy taste of werther's original caramel
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a u.s. soldier accused of killing afghan civilians is being brought back to the united states. the u.s. army sergeant allegedly went door-to-door gunning down 16 people, including nine children. his attorney said his client will be relocated to the military detention center in kansas. john henry brown is the lawyer for the accused soldier. he talked with cnn a short time ago about his client's state of mind. >> he sounded distant and kind of like a deer in the headlights, but okay. i conveyed his family's love for him. i told him i did not want to speak to him about specifics of the case because i don't trust the phone not being monitored. i don't know what the facts are. he seemed to be unaware of some of the facts that i talked to him about, which makes me concerned about his state of mind obviously. >> so we want to know what's going to happen next in this
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very public case. tom is a defense attorney and a former judge advocate general in the united states army joining us from new york. good to see you. >> thanks for having me, fredericka. >> so despite local calls for this soldier to be tried in afghanistan, wasn't it inevitable that he would end up back in the united states to face court-martial? >> i don't know if it was inevitable. we have had murder trials occur in theatre in both iraq and afghanistan. i think there's probably a couple of issues at play. this kind of case given the publicity it's getting, the gravity of the alleged offense, it's very likely this is a prosecution that would last not months, but years. that creates a logistical problem because, remember, fredericka, all the armed forces, personnel that are serving in iraq and afghanistan they're there on limited deployments. generally 12 months. so unless the military wants to have this sort of revolving door prosecution where every year there's a new defense team
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coming in and new prosecution team, having it state side makes more sense. i think the other issue is part of it -- the fact they did it this quickly could very well be a concession to how badly the security situation is really deteriorated in afghanistan for our forces. >> of course, afghans made it very clear and right away that they wanted this to be prosecuted in afghanistan. they wanted there to be the use of afghan witnesses. so if this is a court-martial that will take place exclusively in the united states, there would be no afghan representation in any way, would there? >> not necessarily so. first of all, let's be clear, pursuant to the status of forces agreement, the united states has exclusive jurisdiction to try military personnel. there's no situation where the afghanis could try them themselves. the government in any criminal prosecution, including a ucmj case military justice, they have the right to prove their case any which way they decide to
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prove it. however, the accused is protected by the sixth amendment, which means he has a right to confront his accusers. thus, if the government will need to produce afghan civilian witnesses, let's say, in order to prove this case, eyewitnesss, if you will, the defense has a right to get them on the witness stand to cross-examine them. >> that's not likely to happen, is it? >> if the case goes to trial, you know they'll have a hard time proving this case, i think, without eyewitness testimony. there's indication there's video surveillance showing him leave the base. he did apparently make some sort of confession, but that in and of itself may not be enough to legally establish -- >> right, but the eyewitnessing of the case would involve those afghans because there was no personnel to eyewitness that case. >> absolutely. >> what is the process in this road to court-martial if indeed he's going to end up in kansas, then what? how long would he be there before prosecution would actually begin?
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or the process of prosecution would begin? >> well, the process will begin rather quickly. and we're going to see now an article 32 investigation, sort of like the military equivalent to a grand jury investigation where an investigating officer is appointed, the facts will be flushed out. and ultimately a military judge will determine whether there's enough evidence to bring him to trial in a case like this i don't think the government or the military will have a hard time meeting that burden. i think one of the things that his defense counsel was going to do and i think it was telegraphed in that video earlier. he's going to request a sanity board. different from an insanity defense. a sanity board has to do with whether your client is competent to even stand trial in the first place. whether he can understand the charges that are being brought against him and whether he can assist in his own defense. >> okay, because also if i can stop you there because his defense -- his attorneys will also try to argue there may have been some ptsd involved, there may have been some open knowledge about physical injuries, that there may have even been a promise or two or
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warnings that he should not be deployed again to afghanistan. yet despite that warning, he was. how heavily will those things weigh for his defense? >> well, again, you know, keep in mind, fredericka, ptsd, the fact that you were deployed but shouldn't have been, combat stress, the fact you have prior injuries, don't really go to an insanity defense. they're not -- certainly not a defense of premeditated murder. insanity is, are you -- do you have the mental capability to understand the nature and consequences of your act? i think what the defense is trying to set up is to try to save their client from the death penalty. because all of those issues can be considered factors in mitigation in the penalty phase of the death penalty case. in other words, if there's a unanimous verdict of guilt as to pre-meditated murder, then the jury will have a separate mini trial where they deliberate on whether or not to impose the death penalty and could take into consideration all of those factors. >> all right. defense attorney tom kenniff.
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and former judge advocate general in the united states army. thanks for your time. i appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. some critics are calling it outrageous. an arizona bill i'm talking about that would require women on birth control to prove to their employers they're only taking it for medical reasons. that's if they want to keep their health insurance. up next, the state lawmaker who sponsored the bill, representative debbie lesco will be joining me. you don't want to miss this conversation up next. you ready? we wanna be our brother's keeper. what's number two we wanna do? bring it up to 90 decatherms. how bout ya, joe? let's go ahead and bring it online. attention on site, attention on site. now starting unit nine. some of the world's cleanest gas turbines are now powering some of america's biggest cities. siemens. answers. that is better than today. since 1894, ameriprise financial has been working hard
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on yesterday's show, we told you about arizona's version of the contraception insurance mandate debate. the arizona house and one senate committee have passed a bill that would let any employer, religious or secular, to refuse to cover birth control unless it's used for non-birth control purposes. women who use it for medical conditions would have to prove they're not trying to prevent pregnancy. the measure would also repeal a clause that says and i quote here, a religious employer shall not discriminate against an employee who obtains insurance coverage or prescriptions for contraceptives from another source.
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well, critics take that to mean women who buy their own contraceptives could legally be fired or demoted. well, it may surprise you this bill was written by a woman. republican state representative and house majority whip debbie lesco joining us from phoenix today. good to see you. >> good to see you. thank you for having me. >> so offer some clarity. because there's a lot of confusion, it appears, as to how this should be interpreted. first off, what was your intention? >> well, what my bill does is one thing and one thing only. it protects the first amendment rights of the citizens of arizona. government should not be telling the mom and pop employer or a faith-based charity organization that they have to provide something that's against their religious belief. that's all it does. it does not allow an employer to ask a woman if they're using contraceptives or not. it does not allow an employer to fire a woman.
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you know, unfortunately the opposition -- >> why is that the interpretation by some? why is that the interpretation by some? it does imply the employer -- >> all i can guess is that the opposition is trying to spread a whole bunch of misinformation out there to confuse the issue. my legislation does one thing and one thing only. it protects the -- the employer, the mom and pop organization or the faith-based organization that doesn't want to be forced by the government to do something against its religious belief. you know, i'm a woman. i'm not going to do something that hurts a woman. you know, if the bill actually did these things that everybody's saying that it did, i wouldn't even support the bill. it just, frankly, does not do that. and it's unfortunate that the opposition is spreading around these lies. >> but isn't this an imposition
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on all employers. on all employers, this applies to all. >> i really -- yes. and if they have a religious objection, if and only if. i really don't think a lot of employers are going to do this. >> doesn't that put a employer in a position where they have to ask the employee -- are you using contraceptive? and if you are, in what way are you using it? how would the employer know if not to ask that question? >> you know, all it does -- this is about the mandate that the government is putting on that the employer has to cover it in their insurance plan. it has nothing to do with the employer asking the employee if they use contraceptives. in fact, it allows an employee to go out and buy contraceptives on their own if they happen to be an employee of one of those few employers that aren't forced to provide it in the insurance. you know, i called walmart last week and they said you could buy generic contraceptives for $9 a month. that's probably cheaper than a
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co-pay. this has nothing to do with taking away the rights of a woman to buy contraceptives for whatever reason. all it says is don't have the government force an employer to provide it in their insurance plan. >> but are you -- >> that's all this bill does. >> are you now setting the stage that there would be some women who would feel compelled to buy it on their own and others who would be able to enjoy the same privilege by way of their insurance? that there's a real conflict here. >> there's no conflict. all my bill is saying is that the government should not be telling the mom and pop employer or a faith-based organization -- they shouldn't be forcing them to provide coverage on the morning after pill if it's against their religious belief. that is all my bill does. it protects their first amendment rights which is the united states constitution. >> but then the argument is being made that this is a privacy issue. it will be challenged on the
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state level and it's certainly one challenged on a federal level. why, you know, why do we have in place, you know, hippa rules where employers and insurance companies are not sharing information about individual patients and you are proposing a proposal that would erase that kind of federal protection. >> well, you're just simply wrong. the opposition is wrong. my bill does nothing to violate the hippa rules. in fact, i asked our attorneys at the house of representatives. my bill does nothing of that sort. the opposition is really turning this legislation around and trying to make it something that it's not. all my bill does is says that a mom and pop employer that doesn't believe that they should be forced by the government to provide the morning after pill doesn't have to include it in their insurance. it says nothing about forcing the employee to not take contraceptives. they can still take them.
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just it won't be provided in the insurance plan of that particular employer. >> and what do you see -- do you see the success or the failure of this proposal clearly? >> you know, we -- i think it passed out of the house of representatives by a wide margin. i expect it's going to pass out of the arizona senate by a wide margin. and i believe that it will be signed by the governor of the state of arizona because it protecting our first amendment right. freedom of religion. and that is what america is all about. >> let me ask you this about your proposed repeal of the no discrimination clause. our legal contributor paul callan was pretty taken aback by that when he spoke to us yesterday. let's play part of what he had to say. >> from a political standpoint, it was very, very foolish of arizona to throw this into the hopper. because it's illegal. that is clearly illegal and by the way, there are federal laws
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that would protect women if they were fired for getting contraceptives. federal law clearly protects that right and it doesn't matter what the states say, women will remain protected. so it's very, very foolish for them to eliminate the provision. i think it creates a controversy and essentially creates a totally unenforceable law. >> and your response to him? >> you know, i talked to the lawyers that help me write up this legislation. they said that that language was not necessary. you know, there has been no discrimination case -- i certainly don't want to discriminate against women because i'm a woman. in fact, i'm not a catholic and i have no personal objection to the use of contraceptives. but i respect the women that do. my lawyers say -- and the house of representative lawyers say this does not violate any hippa rules, any privacy rules. you know, that language was just not necessary. so that's why it was taken out.
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>> do you think it's necessary to make any more modifications in this proposal before it moves forward? >> you know, i'm always open to ideas and suggestions, but from what the lawyers tell me, the language is just fine. i think what's happening is the opposition is really drudging up some things that really aren't related to this bill. it's really unfortunate. because all my bill does is try to protect the mom and pop employer, the faith-based who is now being forced by the government to include something in their insurance plans that they have a moral objection to. i think that's wrong. i think it's un-american. >> well, how do you respond to many who say quite frankly it's un-american or there are real disparities between the arguments and restrictions being proposed in your bill or otherwise about women's reproductive rights, contraceptions versus the availability of viagra to continue to be covered by most
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insurance without the same kind of argument that's being made about contraceptives for women. >> you know, the only reason we're talking about contraceptives is because that's what's being mandated. quite frankly, i'd prefer not to be talking about contraceptives or morning after pills, but the reason i'm talking about it -- >> but you proposed it -- you proposed it, so that's actually not true. you don't have a problem with this argument because you have helped instigate the argument. >> that's inaccurate. it's actually the government that has mandated employers to include this against their religious beliefs. you know, if the government hadn't done that, i wouldn't be talking about it. >> state representative debbie lesko, thanks so much for your time. appreciate it. >> thank you so much. all right. still ahead today. a 12-year-old girl is suing her school district after officials there force her to give up her
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so at a time when the economy is hurting, is getting rid of porn something he should be worried about? that question is fair game today. joining us today is ana navaro and tera adel. so ana, you first. should porn, pornography even be an issue that santorum or any other candidate at this point should be talking about? >> i'm not sure it should be an issue at 11:30 in the morning, but look -- rick santorum is a social conservative. we know that. he is a conservative, he's a conservative on social issues. he cares about these things as do a lot of social conservatives. i don't think he's saying this is going to be a central focus of his administration. i think he's saying this is an important issue. and it's an important issue for a lot of social conservatives, which is why rick santorum does so well with that niche group. i'm certainly thinking he's not saying we're going to shift resources from doj and instead
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of fighting terrorism, we're fighting, you know, some of the issues, we're going to be focusing on porn. but presidents can walk and chew gum at the same time or should be able to. and what he's saying to conservatives is, folks, i'm one of you, this is an issue that worries me and if i get elected president, it's an issue on my agenda. >> all right. santorum is saying the president is doing nothing to prevent pornography. let's read a statement saying quote, america is suffering a pandemic of harm from pornography. the obama administration has turned a blind eye to those who wish to preserve our culture from the scourge of pornography and has refused to enforce obscenity laws. he goes on to say that the obama department of justice seems to favor pornographers over families and children. those are powerful words coming from rick santorum's website. might this backfire?
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>> absolutely, fredericka. this is part of a very disturbing pattern with rick santorum. not only is he focusing on issues that aren't important to most americans, people aren't sitting around the kitchen table saying, boy, i wish the obama administration would tackle the porn industry. people aren't saying that. he's focusing on these issues for two reasons. number one, he's being divisive, this is about a strategy to paint president obama as an immoral godless radical, and that's been a strategy on the part of the republican party. at the same time, they're really diminishing the debate about important issues such as contraception. that's the issue that came up. now, obviously that's not the biggest issue facing the country, but they've turned this issue into something that sounds like a debate in a high school locker room. boys locker room. not into a serious issue about the fact that many women use contraception, not just for birth control, but they use it for ovarian cysts and other important issues like that, health issues that women face that are important to them. and so this pattern and behavior of trying to use these wedge
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social issues to divide, all that it's doing for rick santorum is it's driving up his unfavorables. and you see over the course of this prolonged republican primary, you've seen their unfavorables go up because people see through this, people are concerned about putting food on the table, job security, and so the focus on these issues that aren't as important and to also focus on them in a way that they -- in the way they're focusing on them, it undermines the republicans. >> so ana, why wouldn't santorum camp look at this as being a real risk? here he is enjoying some real victories, you know, after a series of primaries and caucuses. and why would he even need to go in this direction? >> you know, he's not -- i haven't heard him talk about it. i haven't heard him give speeches about it. this is something that was in his website that's on his website that's, you know, one of his points, one of his agenda points. and again, i think it's important to a lot of people in america. maybe, you know, those of us who
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are not social conservatives can find ourselves rolling our eyes at this. but for a lot of people these issues are of great importance. and i agree with, you know, what she just said. we absolutely need to focus on the more important issues of the economy of jobs. but that's funny coming from democrats who have spent the last two weeks beating the drums to death on the rush limbaugh comments. let us all focus on economic foreign policy and jobs issues, which is what america is interested in right now. >> yeah, well, okay. there are other issues, but if you have the candidate who is actually bringing up these issues that are an aside from the economy as you just mentioned, ana, this is rick santorum, his website. this isn't anybody else putting this in, you know, putting these words in his mouth. >> i think he's learned his lesson. he brought up himself speaking them some of these social points a few weeks ago.
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and it was a digression he didn't need in the campaign at that point. this is something on the website, not something that is amongst his talking points. it's not on his stump speech. it's one of the many issues on his website that is important to him. but it is not something that i see as his top ten issues. >> all right. all right. tera, ana, thanks so much. good to see you, ladies, appreciate it. >> thank you. all right. that's fair game. straight ahead, a sixth grade girl says her middle school violated her constitutional rights after officials there forced her to give up her facebook password. does she have a case? and could you be forced to give up your password to your employers? lots of legal questions straight ahead. and we're also getting word now that there is a verdict in the trial of the former rutgers university student accused of spying on his gay roommate. we'll get that verdict to you as soon as it is announced. right after this. [ artis brown ] america is facing some tough challenges right now.
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call now for our free guide and tips on planning for your retirement this tax season. all right. we understand there's a verdict in the case of the former rutgers university student dharun ravi. the verdict has not been read, however. this is a case involving accusations of dharun ravi spying on his gay roommate tyler
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clementi. this is a case not about the death of tyler clementi but instead about privacy issues. i want to bring in our legal contributor paul callan who is also watching this courtroom or these live images now as we await the reading of the verdict. so this is a very complicated case because this is involving dharun ravi and whether he conspired to even breach the privacy of his roommate by having this web cam and then encouraging other students to watch the encounter, what would be an expected sexual encounter between his roommate, tyler clementi and another man. but this is not about the consequential death that involved tyler clementi. so this was a tough case for the prosecution to establish that there was intent. while the defense tried to argue that there was no hatred involved here. it was a young man fresh out of high school who was simply
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curious and tried to engage his fellow students at rutgers university. >> yes, it's -- you know, this is going to be a precedent-setting case, fredericka. you know, new jersey has this law called invasion of privacy, and it's one of the strictest laws in the country. and it basically says that if you broadcast over social media or over the internet streaming video or any kind of photographs or video of sexual activity or sexual contact. that's a crime in new jersey, punishable by as much as five years in prison. it's the crime of invasion of privacy, which by the way not even criminal in a lot of states. and if you have broadcast that material because you have bias or hatred against people on the basis of their race, religion, or their sexual orientation, it doubles the sentence to ten years in prison. and it's called bias intimidation. so this case has been very
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closely watched because it's a new law, which really is going to set a precedent about how harmful broadcast of things over the internet can be. really bullying and the impact it can have. and it's also a very, very interesting case on bias intimidation. how do you prove it? how do you prove this young student ravi was biased against gay people? was that why he broadcast it? or was he just engaging in sort of a college prank. >> -- establish that kind of bias and intimidation, there was the use of the text messaging, the dialogue that was taking place between dharun ravi and other students. >> yes. that was an important part of the evidence in the case. and just so our national audience who maybe hasn't been following the case so closely understands what happened. when the police started investigating this, they found out that ravi had, in fact, sent text messages to his friends saying i'm going to film this on
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a second occasion and, you know, sort of tune in. ichat me and you'll be able to see tyler clementi with this man in his bedroom and prosecutors believe that's anti-gay bias and gay intimidation. the defense has said there's no evidence of gay bias here. this was done as a stupid joke and a prank, and it wasn't done because of gay bias. and they say ravi would not have lived with an individual that he thought was gay if he was a h o homophobe. >> can i stop you there? there's now a reading of the verdict. >> i'm fine. >> are you okay? >> okay. >> on count one, invasion of privacy, we find the defendant guilty or not guilty as to t.c. >> guilty. >> guilty or not guilty as to m.b. >> guilty.
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>> on count two, bias intimidation, we find the defendant did commit the offense of invasion of privacy with the purpose to intimidate t.c. because of sexual orientation. guilty or not guilty? >> not guilty. >> did commit the offense of invasion of privacy with the purpose to intimidate m.b. because -- guilty or not guilty? >> not guilty. >> did commit the offense of invasion of privacy knowing that the conduct constituting invasion of privacy would cause t.c. to be intimidated because of sexual orientation, not guilty or guilty? >> not guilty. >> did commit the offense of invasion of privacy knowing that the conduct constituting invasion of privacy would cause m.b. to be intimidated because of sexual orientation, guilty or
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not guilty? >> not guilty. >> did commit the offense of invasion of privacy under circumstances that caused t.c. to be intimidated and considering the manner in which the offense was committed, t.c. reasonably believed that he was selected to be targeted of the offense because of sexual orientation guilty or not guilty? >> guilty. >> on count three, invasion of privacy, we find the defendant guilty or not guilty as to t.c.? >> guilty. >> guilty or not guilty as to m.b.? >> guilty. >> on count four, bias intimidation, we find the defendant did commit the offense of invasion of privacy with the purpose to intimidate t.c. because of sexual orientation, guilty or not guilty? >> not guilty.
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>> did commit the offense of invasion of privacy because of the purpose to intimidate mb because of sexual orientation guilty or not guilty? >> not guilty. >> did commit the offense of invasion of privacy knowing the conduct constituting invasion of privacy would cause t.c. to be intimidated because of sexual orientation, not guilty or guilty? >> guilty. >> did commit the offense of invasion of privacy knowing that the conduct did constitute invasion of privacy would cause m.b. to be intimidated because of sexual orientation, guilty or not guilty? >> not guilty. >> did commit the offense of invasion of privacy under circumstances that caused t.c. to be intimidated and considering the manner in which the offense was committed, t.c. reasonably believed that he was selected to be the target of the offense because of sexual orientation, guilty or not guilty?
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>> guilty. >> on count five, attempted invasion of privacy, we find the defendant guilty or not guilty as to t.c.? >> guilty. >> guilty or not guilty as to m.b.? >> guilty. >> on count six, bias intimidation, we find the defendant did attempt to cause the offense of invasion of privacy with the purpose to intimidate t.c. because of sexual orientation, guilty or not guilty? >> guilty. >> did attempt to commit the offense of invasion of privacy with the purpose of intimidate m.b. because of sexual orientation, guilty or not guilty? >> not guilty. >> did attempt to commit the offense of invasion of privacy knowing that the conduct constituting invasion of privacy would cause t.c. to be intimidated because of sexual orientation, guilty or not
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guilty? >> guilty. >> did attempt to commit the offense of invasion of privacy knowing that the conduct constituting invasion of privacy would cause m.b. to be intimidated because of sexual orientation, guilty or not guilty? >> not guilty. >> did attempt to commit the offense of invasion of privacy under circumstances that caused t.c. to be intimidated and considering the manner of which the offense was committed, t.c. reasonably believed he would be selected to be the target of the offense because of sexual orientation, guilty or not guilty? >> guilty. >> on count seven, attempted invasion of privacy, we find the defendant guilty or not guilty as to t.c.? >> guilty. >> guilty or not guilty as to m.b.? >> guilty. >> on count eight. the bias intimidation, we find the defendant did attempt to commit the offense of invasion
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of privacy with the purpose to intimidate t.c. because of sexual orientation. guilty or not guilty? >> guilty. >> did attempt to commit the offense of invasion of privacy with the purpose to intimidate m.b. because of sexual orientation. guilty or not guilty? >> not guilty. guilty? >> not guilty. >> did attempt to commit invasion of privacy knowing that the conduct intimidated because of sexual orientation, guilty or not guilty? >> not guilty. >> did attempt to commit the invasion of privacy knowing that the conduct constituting invasion of privacy caused m.b. to be intimidated because of sexual orientation, guilty or not guilty? >> not guilty. >> did attempt to commit the offense of invasion of privacy under circumstances that caused t.c. to be intimidated and considering the manner in which the offense was committed, t.c.
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reasonably believed that he was selected to be the target of the offense because of sexual orientation, guilty or not guilty? >> guilty. >> as to count 9, tampering with physical evidence, we find the defendant guilty or not guilty? >> guilty. >> on count 10, tampering with physical evidence, we do find the defendant guilty or not guilty? >> guilty. >> on count 11, hindering apprehension or prosecution we find the defendant guilty or not guilty? >> guilty. >> on count 12, hindering apprehension or prosecution, we find the defendant guilty or not guilty? >> guilty. >> on count 13, hindering apprehension or prosecution, we find the defendant guilty or not guilty? >> guilty. >> on count 14, witness tampering, we find the defendant
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guilty or not guilty? >> guilty. >> on count 15, tampering with physical evidence, we find the defendant guilty or not guilty? >> guilty. >> thank you. >> you may be seated. thank you very much. >> all right. a combination of guilty verdicts on invasion of privacy, intimidation, tampering with evidence and witness tampering for this 20-year-old former rutgers university student right there. dharun raf vee now facing a numb ravi facing a number of guilty
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verdicts as it pertains to videotaping, a sexual encounter between his roommate, tyler clementi, and another man, another come pain john. our legal contributor is with us now. there were 15 indictments. we heard a number of guilties and not guilties. there was sim layer indictments of invasion of privacy and bias intimidation and tampering with evidence. >> there were 15 charges and half of them had -- there were two incidents. in the first incident he used his webcam when tyler clementi and an unidentified male engaged in sexual conduct in the room and that was broadcast over the webcam to another room. that led to approximately half the counts in the indictment. after then tweeting to his
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friends that he had seen this and that it was probably going to happen again, on the 21st -- the first incident was on the 19th. a second encounter between tyler clementi and this man was expected and that people should tune in. this created a second set of indictments for attempted invasion of privacy and attempted bias intimidation. >> and real quick, paul, while we're talking, they are polling the jurors right now to find out, to try to underscore that this was -- these were unanimous decisions. is this a case in which un aanymore tea is important? >> yes. it's a criminal case. all 12 jurors must agree on all counts and proof must be beyond a reasonable doubt. it's different than a civil case where you need a majority vote for one side or the other to win. >> and this was a new law being
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tested here when we talk about the invasion of privacy, intimidation, et cetera. as to why this verdict -- why the outcome of this case really does set a precedence, why it's so important, particularly. >> the reason that i think it's critical and i watched the debate as the case went on, a lot of people thinking, well, it's really unfair to punish a student like ravi because he's anned a descent in college and he made a stupid mistake. other people said, when you make a mistake like this in the new world of social media and you broadcast something on the internet, potentially hundreds of people can see what you broadcast. so you're really equipped with a machine gun now whereas 25 years ago if you were gossiping about some other kid, maybe only two or three people would see it. so social media has just exacerbated the ability of
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people to hurt very deeply other people in their conduct. and, of course, in this case, although he was not charged with the death of tyler clementi, tyler clementi committed suicide by jumping off the g.w. bridge after this was broadcast. >> and really underscoring the importance of this case, a young man died in the end. however, this was not a case that would dissect, you know, his death and how that came about of tyler clementi. again, a 20-year-old, dharun ravi, now found guilty of a number of counts involving invasion of privacy, intimidation, tampering with evidence and witness tampering as well. we heard from the judge that he will set a date for sentencing later on today. thank you so much for helping us out on this breaking news story. we'll have much more on this case and others. i'm fredricka whitfield. suzanne malveaux will be back with much more of the newsroom
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live from cnn headquarters in atlanta, i'm suzanne malveaux. i want to get you up to speed for this friday, march 16th. a former rutgers university student has been found guilty of several charges after he was accused of spying on his gay roommate with a webcam. dharun ravi faced a 15-count indictment, including invasion of privacy, witness tampering, and bias intimidation. his roommate, tyler clementi, killed himself in september 2010 after learning that ravi had secretly spied on him. i want to bring in miguel marquez who is bringing us the story and legal contributor, paul, they are both joining us from new york.
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miguel, let's start off with you. help us understand this verdict because in some ways he is found guilty but not guilty necessarily of what they are calling bias intimidation. what does that mean? >> yeah. that would be if -- for lack of a better word, that would be the hate crime part of this. he was found guilty of invasion of privacy for peaking in, using his webcam to watch tyler clementi and a boyfriend or somebody he had over -- a visitor that he had over, a sexual encounter, but they did not find bias intimidation. all of this relates to two tweets. we bo probably not be here and dharun ravi would not be here today, suzanne, if it were not for two tweets he sent after witnessing tyler and his male -- his boyfriend or his visitor that came over that night had he not sent out a tweet telling all of his friends that, you know, hey, i just saw my roommate. he borrowed the room till
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midnight, he had a guy over and they were making out. yay. and then later, a second time, a couple of days later when tyler clementi asked to use the room again in private, dharun ravi then tweeted again saying, my roommate's at it again. everybody tune in, sign on to my ichat and then was tweeting and texting friends about what they thought was going to happen. tyler clementi, the prosecution argued was intimidated by this because they showed time and time again and concerned about what he was going to say, what else he was going to say, the jury clearly didn't come to that conclusion. they felt that this was somebody making perhaps a joke, an off-colored joke, doing as kids do, and did not find them guilty of the bias intimidation part of this. at least not all of the bias intimidation charges.
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it sounds like some of them he was found guilty on but certainly invasion of privacy, they did. >> miguel, one of the things you followed this case very closely. the attorney, ravi's attorney was saying, look, it might have been borish behavior but it wasn't criminal behavior. this was a young person who did something stupid but did not have any kind of homophobic feelings about his roommate, it wasn't a hate crime aspect. how was it that they presented the case here to convince that jury that that was -- that there was not that hate component, that this could have been spying on a girl and a boy together and not necessarily have anything to do with the fact that his roommate was gay. >> yes. the defense brought in a lot of witnesses that testified that he had never said anything hateful towards gays, that he didn't have that sense built. he sent the night that tyler clementi killed himself, he sent him apology saying that he knew he was gay but he was just shy about it, that he didn't have a problem with it. dharun ravi had a good friend
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that was gay and he had an open relationship. of course, that text came too late. it's not even clear tyler clementi ever saw that text and dharun ravi trying to make up to him. they presented a lot of information that this was just playful behavior and perhaps childish but it's also a very, very good lesson that in the modern age, when somebody is shy, when somebody perhaps is concerned about something in their personal life, if you put it out on twitter, in a semi-public or a public forum, that carries different consequences than just loose talk in the cafeteria or amongst friends in the dorm room. >> and then finally, miguel, we don't want to forget, tyler clementi in this case, just how tragic this is and far-reaching to so many people. you had president obama and so many people following this case because it did highlight this aspect of bullying, what led to the suicide of this young man
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here. has it changed the campus? has it changed the way students think about how they treat each other? >> well, one would hope that it would. and in an age where information can can be shared so easily and broadly with a much larger population, the problem -- and what the prosecutors tried to prove and apparently did not prove to large degree, that tyler clementi because of the tweets sent by ravi when he went to the cafeteria, when he was out in the public space, he felt like he was suddenly a target because he was gay, because his roommate had put out there to the world, even though tyler clementi was out to his family and roommate and people close to him, that he put out to a wider audience that suddenly tyler clementi felt as though he was were being singled out and that's what we hope people will begin to realize, is that, you know. >> we don't live in a bubble and when you put things out on twitter, when you put things out on social media, it does have an effect. >> miguel, thank you so much.
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i want to bring in paul to talk about the legal aspects of this. what is the difference here? what difference does it make? why was that so important that you had the two aspects of this case, the invasion of privacy part and then this other part that made it a hate crime? and in this case they found that he was not guilty of a hate crime? >> well, i disagree with the assessment that he was found not guilty of a hate crime. i think he was found, in fact, guilty of bias intimidation and i just want to go back to what was going on when the jury verdict was being read because it might create some confusion. he was charged with 15 counts and some of those were bias intimidation. some of those had to do with other things, like tampering of evidence and destroying of evidence and invasion of privacy. the court gave the jury a number of subcounts, theories of bias intimidation and the jury agreed with only one or two of those and disagreed with the others. but in the end, this was a clean
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sweep in favor of the prosecution. the jury has found invasion of privacy and they have found at least one instance of bias intimidation relating to the invasion of privacy counts. what that means is, in the end, he's facing the maximum sentence potentially ten years in prison for invading privacy and doing this with some bias intimidation. so this is a very big victory for the prosecution and it's going to set a precedent, i think, nationwide that if you engage in cyberbullying by broadcasting this kind of information and here it was two gay individuals involved in a sexual encounter, you are facing very serious jail time. this is going to really change, i think, the way people think about social media and particularly what young people think is the norm in terms of just broadcasting everything on the internet, posting
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everything, whether there are certain things that are criminal to post and this new jersey case, i think, is going to set a very important precedent in criminal law, social media law. >> and ex be plain to us, because it is a little confusing, what is the difference? because you say he was found guilty of bias intimidation on some charges and not bias intimidation with other counts. can you explain the difference there? >> yes. let me -- well, let me start out by -- i think we should know the difference between the invasion of privacy and the bias intimidation count. new jersey has this new law, invasion of privacy. if you broadcast over the internet intimate moments, sexual contact between people without their permission, that's a crime in new jersey. it used to be you could do it and there would be no criminal exposure. okay? if you are doing that because of racial hatred, because of
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religious hatred, or because of bias involving somebody's sexual orientation, as was the situation in this case, that's the bias intimidation count. and what the court did in this case was the court submitted, based on the evidence to the jury, on each count there were maybe five or six different claimed incidents that had occurred which would have supported the bias intimidation claim and the court asked them to look at each of these claims. now, they threw out most of them. but all they had to do was come back with one instance of him having racial or ethic or sexual orientation bias for invading the privacy and it would double the sentence and that's what happened. they came back with one incident of bias intimidation which means the prosecution wins. >> and, paul, would it have made any difference here -- the ending of all this is so tragic because you have this young student who kills himself, who
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jumps off the bridge. was there any way that ravi could have been charged in any way with contributing to that young man's death? >> well, no. under new jersey law, i don't think there was any way that he could be formally charged with that. there's a more complicated backstory to the death of tyler clementi. he leaped to his death off the george washington bridge after this horrible invasion of his privacy and bullying that took place. but the prosecution would have to prove that ravi should have known that this would have caused a suicide, there's no way you could prove that. and you would also have to delve into whether maybe there were other reasons that tyler clementi committed suicide other than this. this might have been the last of the problems going on. we'll never know because that wasn't part of the trial. i do say, suzanne, if tyler clementi had not committed
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the army sergeant accused of killing 16 civilians in kandahar is no longer in kuwait. he's on his way to the military prison in kansas. he's expected to arrive this evening. he suffered a brain injury back in 2010. you're about to see my conversation with sebastian who spent a lot of final with soldiers and marines in afghanistan. he talks about the harsh effect of combat. first, the defense attorney was on cnn a short time ago. >> particularly anyone who has been in iraq three times previously and has been injured will be under a great deal of stress. stress is always a factor. i know that there is no issue
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with his marriage. it's a very strong marriage and frampgly we're all taking offense at that. whether there was alcohol involved or not, i don't know. he seemed to be unaware of some of the facts that i talked to him about which makes me concerned about his state of mind, obviously. >> you're sort of thinking about putting the entire war on trial and how maybe the military treats its soldiers. am i being fair? >> i think it's a real question. you know, i'm old enough to remember the massacre in vietnam and how that hastened the end of that war. maybe a tragic event like this will get people to rethink the war in general. i don't want to put the war on trial but i think that people should start thinking more about why we're there and how long we are going to stay there. >> joining me from new york is sebastian younger.
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we heard the defense attorney saying that the men and women who serve back to back tours of duty and suffer ptsd and are required to go on. do you think that's fair? >> well, i think i'd like to point out that mass shootings happen virtually every week in this country and usually it's young men. i'm sure there's some stress, terrible stress in their lives that trigger these crimes. i've spent a lot of time with u.s. military and obviously almost the entire u.s. military goes into deployment and it doesn't turn into mass murders. >> i want to play a clip for you when the attorney talked with his client, this soldier, to get to the state of mind here. he asked if he actually knew what he had done. let's take a listen. >> when you talked with him on
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the phone, did it appear that he knew what he had done? >> no. but i don't know what the facts are. he seemed to be unaware of some of the facts that i talked to him about, which makes me concerned about his state of mind, obviously. >> as a journalist, author who has been in the trenches with military men and women, you've been a witness to some of the heroic and disturbing events in war. can you describe for us the state of mind of these individuals who are deployed long periods of time under fire day in and day out? >> oh, they are under huge stress and i think one of the things that keeps them acting well is, frankly, like most people, they are decent people and don't want independent blood on their hands. i saw many occasions where they were in combat and civilians were nearby and they held their fire even though they were
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they heard this boy crying out. >> right. >> and then they heard a shot and what was reported when they came out, he was standing over them. everybody pay attention to this. he was standing over this boy with his feet between him. that's assassination when you're standing over someone and had his hands over his head as to say, oh, my god, what did i do? how could you justify. >> we want to listen to the family. >> he was into sports. he loved playing football, loved watching football, loved basketball. he loves to eat everything in your house. >> 17-year-old boy, yes. >> yes. he loved music. he loves kids. he loves to baby sit and wash cars and just a normal kid.
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>> the whole world sees that this is a tragedy. it's sad. it's sad as a father to have to bury your child. as a parent you never want to imagine burying your kids and for me to have to bury my son is just sad. >> this case is in the hands of the state's attorney but this has obviously touched a cord for many people. why? >> because we're having enough time for black parents, latinos in general, making sure our kids are safe so they can get the education. what really sets me off, here is a father and a mother, everything that we're telling america to do, take care of their kids, be there for their children. they are there. this child ends up dead for going to the store. it's offensive to a lot of us also because we're sick and tired of unfairness. not just blacks but even whites have e-mailed me and called into the show. i can't even get into the
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trayvon martin story because people are calling me telling me, the same thing happened to me, to my child. >> let's talk about the issue of race here. even the parents were asked today whether or not they thought race played a role. i want you to listen to the family attorney here when asked directly whether this was racial. >> if trayvon would have pulled the trigger, he would have been arrested. he wouldn't even have been given bail. >> is this a clear case of racial profiling? >> yes. there is nobody in this world that believes that was a white child shot by a watchman, he would be in jail. we're not that naive. obviously it's a racial issue as well. i'm not trying to color paint all whites this way but that situation definitely has racial overtone. it's offensive and we're going to do something about it. >> and you said as well, white listeners were also calling in?
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>> absolutely. we all live in the same country. we're not naive. when gene na 6 happened, that was about the six boys charged with murder over a fight. this is as offensive, if not more so, because you have somebody who has gotten killed over this. so my seven million listeners, black churches and naacp, we are all behind this together and sam has got to get it together and it shouldn't have gone to the state's attorney. >> what are you talking about? there's a rally? >> on the 26th there's a hearing about the case. on the 26th and bigger things are planned and i'll keep you posted. >> all right. we'll be listening. >> thank you for having me on. i appreciate it. fallout for a massacre allegedly carried out by an american soldier. the families of the victims are speaking out to president hamid
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the president of afghanistan, hamid karzai, says he is not happy with the cooperation of the investigation. the families of those killed by an american soldier acting alone. i want to go to fareed zakaria. good to have you here. first of all, this soldier
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accused of killing civilians in kandahar is now on his way back to the united states. clearly the afghan people are not happy with how this is being handled. is there a way for u.s. and afghan are tried and treated? >> i think this is a soluble problem. tempers are very high in afghanistan. people are upset and feel as though this is the kind of callo callous treatment of humans and stuff like that. all that said, the reaction is not as strong as it was to the burning of the koran. partly because this s. i think, most people recognize this was not a conscious decision by the u.s. military. this was a lone act of a gunman, of one soldier. and secondly, there is a tradition in afghanistan of being able to in effect pay a kind of -- you know, some kind of restitution. so i think this is manageable.
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president karzai did something very responsible. it's fine for him to express his outrage. he tried to buy into the conspiracy theories that have been set foot -- that this is not the work of a lone soldier, that this was part of some kind of conspiracy or that the army hire-ups were involved in it. that kind of thing is very worrying. but outside of that, this will blow over and there be ways that true payments of restitutions, apology already made quite well, i think we will get through this. >> and fareed, you say that he bought into that or was selling this idea of a conspiracy. why do you suppose he did that. do you think that sets well with the afghan people there? >> yeah, you've got to remember politics in afghanistan, too. he's playing to a crowd, he's playing to fantasies, conspiracy theories that exist. look, i don't mean to minimize
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it. this kind of thing happens it and every democracy it happens here. politicians take advantage of public fears and unfortunately that's what karzai was doing. it was very responsible. it would have been one thing to condemn the attacks and demand greater cooperation and all of that is fine. but to play into this notion that this was not the work of a single gunman, a single soldier, that is what distinguishes us from single incidents. >> let's turn to syria. obviously things are very, very tough. the u.n. tried a diplomatic approach toned the conflict. it did not really produce the results that they had hoped but they are going to try again next week. what can the u.n. and world leaders do different here? >> there's not much the u.n. can do. the u.n. can play a catalytic
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role but it's a question of saving face and how do you make happen? the assad regime has decided that it is going to hang on, going to massacre men, women, and children, and try to stay in power. so far it has succeeded. the opposition has not been able to gain traction, take a city or any kind of large track of the countryside even, resupply them or to arm them. it's a very sad story but it doesn't seem right now as though they are in the negotiating mood. i think that our efforts would be better placed in trying to get what is the principle sponsor, which is russia and iran to cut them off. we don't have much leverage with iran but we do with russia. if they cut the syrians off, that might change things on the ground. they won't be be able to do anything right now. >> and fareed, i understand you have a special program this
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weekend preparing the world's health care system. >> we looked around the world and asked ourselves, what can we learn from the rest of the world. there are about 20 rich countries that have health care systems and they try to fulfill the same function that ours does and what i was struck by is really we rank pretty close to the bottom in most of them in terms of the outcomes, life expectancy, patient satisfaction. we rank very low. and here's the killer, we spend as three times as much on a per capita basis. we've got to figure out what these countries are doing that we aren't and how we can learn from it. so we've gone to thailand, switzerland and one official said, the one thing you learn from america when you study health care systems around the world, you learn how not to do it. >> wow. not a ringing endorsement there. fareed, thanks for joining us. we're going to watch that.
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watch fareed's special on sunday night. what can britain and taiwan and switzerland teach the u.s. about health care? watch sunday at 8:00 p.m. eastern and pacific. so did google invade your privacy in its drive to compete with facebook? there is now an investigation into how that company bypassed privacy settings. >> time now for the help desk where we get answers to your financial questions. joining sme jack on thor, the executive editor of moneywatch.com and author of "worth it, not worth it" and strays see francis is the president of francis financial. let's get right to the e-mails from chris, first of all, in california. he writes, i am $20,000 in debt with medical and car repair bills. i'm a full-time college student, a single fire. i have a secured credit card through usaa. is bankruptcy an option for me?
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>> well, bankruptcy should really be his last option. first, he can contact the creditors and see if he can go on a payment plan. or possibly even restructuring it and we've been able to see even pennies on the dollars being paid back because bankruptcy stays with you for many, many, many years. and the amount of debt he has, while it is large, it's not catastrophic. so bankruptcy at this point, i would put that on the back burner for now. >> let's go to the next one from lee. he writes, my wife just inherited $100,000 from her grandmother. is there a certain savings vehicle we should consider for this inheritance? jack, what do you think? >> it depends on their time frame. if they expect to use that money in the next five years, put it in cds, boring, no return. if you have longer, you can put $85,000 in cds, $50,000 in a broad base equity index fund. after ten years, they will still
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have more than their principal even if the stock market went to zero. if they have a really long term, this is the best situation. they are going to want to have a diversified stock, bonds, commodities, and some cds. this is enough money where it might be worth it to hire a financial planner, someone like stacy from the francis network they will charge you an hourly fee but they will make it up. >> send us an e-mail to cnnhelpdesk@cnn.com. people with a machine. what ?
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police arrested actor george clooney a short time ago in washington. clooney is trying to draw attention to the attacks against civilians in sudan. he is calling for aid before sudan becomes the worst
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humanitarian crisis in the world. he told a senate committee that the attacks are being orchestrated by sudan's government. a guy playing golf got the jolt of his life when he found himself on the edge of a tornado in michigan. take a look at this. he said it came out of nowhere. it ripped through the city of dexter west of ann arbor. as you can see the picture there, more than 100 homes either destroyed or damaged. fortunately no reports of deaths or injuries. all right. a round of applause, even high fives in new york this morning now that apple's newest gadget, the ipad, is finally on sale. fans have been camping outside of the stores around the world. walmart, best buy, target also
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going to sell the new ipad and it's given a new boost to apple's stock. shares had an all-time high topping the $600 mark. privacy concerns continue to hound google. now the company reportedly in the middle of a global investigation. alison kosik is at the new york stock exchange. that seems pretty significant here. we've learned that google was bypassing privacy settings for users of safari. >> at this point it's just an accusation. t "the wall street journal" says that the regulators are looking into whether google did what it is being accused of. this whole thing started last month when the wall street journal found that google was tracking people online using apple's safari browser. now, here's why google would do this. if google knows about you, what
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you search online, it can wind up targeting ads to you and advertising is the wholly grail for google. safari is designed to block third-party tracking but google found a way around that. "the wall street journal" caught google's hand in the cookie jar and then google stopped. >> alison, i have to ask you about the bag pipes in the background. what is going on over there? >> did you know that st. paddy's day is saturday. so a lot of times here at the new york stock exchange we have guys here entertaining the guys on the floor. you hear all of the cheering. he's in the skirt, he's got the whole thing going on. >> the whole thing, yes. we can hear it. the applause and all of that, it sounds like a party is going on. st. paddy's day going on early. >> no drinks yet. >> after the close of business. that's okay. >> back to the google story.
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>> they possibly could be fine. analysts say at this point it could be proving that google acted intentionally. google says no way it maintains it was an accident. we have to think back and after a year or two ago it was collecting personal information when its google vehicles took street view maps, drove around taking those pictures and it was collecting information and google will be interesting to see how this unfolds, suzanne. >> thank you, suzanne. >> happy st. paddy's day to you. the verdict is in on the rutgers university student accused of spying on his roommate with a web cam. [ male announcer ] this is the network --
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